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kowaiyoukaiYeah, I don't care how whiny this sounds, I'm going to bitch anyway.
Decided to post under a cut so that people who don't care are spared my whining. B/c really now. There's a lot of whining.
Here's the longest, most thoughtful review I got (out of the 12) on the first part of Apogee, also found here:
"I have no problem with people wanting K/S. I shipped them like whoa in TOS because, come on, it was RIGHT THERE! lol
But in the reboot, people seem to vault head over heels to try and break up S/U without any validity. And I say without validity because of one key thing. You said that Spock suddenly thought that starting a relationship two weeks after his mother died was selfish.
...But I bring your attention to the scene in in STXI where Spock originally assigned Uhura to the Farragut because he did not want anything to speak of favoritism.
That doesn't sound like a relationship that started AFTER the movie.
Now, if you want Spock and Uhura to find out they're not really compatible, that's fine. That's what real relationships sometimes lead to. But to have Uhura basically bully Spock with "logic" to keep him, that does a disservice to both Spock and Uhura as the strong, dynamic characters we know they are.
Not only did it pull me out of the story (because while I was excited that my private OTP was now canon, I still have a huge place in my heart for well done K/S), but it left a bad taste in my mouth because I wondered, if Uhura and Spock are so OOC, who will turn out to be next?"
Now, what's my problem with that review? Not necessarily in the content, b/c everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but that it was anonymous--with a written-in "Alex". Which means I can't respond to the review. And I've got a lot to say, particularly b/c I already argued the "favoritism" line argument in another LJ review (basically: no way would Spock date a cadet b/c it's illogical and inappropriate in lots of ways, so the favoritism must have indicated that she was at the top of her classes or soemthing). Also, and I hate to say it like this but I'll say it anyway, why the heck would a S/U shipper read a K/S fic where S/U eventually falls apart? I don't care what Alex or anyone else says, a true shipper (and everyone I know well both online and IRL) cannot stand to read fics where their ship isn't the main one, or else where it fails so a different ship can win. It's like, don't tell me you like "well done [insert other ship here]" (especially when that same fic disses your OTP) b/c that's a load of bullshit. Okay? I've been in fandom for 18 years now. I KNOW. *headdesk*
MY WHOLE POINT TO THIS WHINING IS THIS!! The fact that on FFN, people can comment and you can't always reply to their comments is the most obnoxious fucking thing I have come across in a long while. I'd really like to delete that comment, but I can't figure out how to do so. D: B/c I think anyone who just says something like that and doesn't allow the author to respond is a fucking asshole. If you're going to say shit like that, at least have the common decency to leave the author with the option of responding. *headdesk*
Don't get me wrong. I can take criticism, and in fact often appreciate it b/c it helps me write better. But to say the entire fic is bad and everyone is OOC and then not allow me to comment about that is just ridiculous.
THAT IS WHY I HATE FFN. And also their whole idiotic policies. Bah. Yeah, it's cool knowing how many people clicked on your fic and where they're from and whatnot, but I'd rather not know how mnay people are getting it and instead get awesome reviews which I can reply to, whether they are positive, negative, or what-have-you. That's why LJ rocks and FFN sucks, which I'd known for years now but for some reason decided to get smacked into me again.
SO!! What should I do? Report the review for abuse b/c it annoys me? Suck it up and deal with it? Stop posting on FFN? Continue posting on FFN and learn to live with these annoyances?
But I'll feel bad b/c people are following it on FFN now and I don't want to not post b/c one asshole was an asshole. Hmmm... BAH TO THESE SHENANIGANS.
Anyway, I'm online for a while yet, so reply if you can/care! What would YOU do, if you were me? XD
Decided to post under a cut so that people who don't care are spared my whining. B/c really now. There's a lot of whining.
Here's the longest, most thoughtful review I got (out of the 12) on the first part of Apogee, also found here:
"I have no problem with people wanting K/S. I shipped them like whoa in TOS because, come on, it was RIGHT THERE! lol
But in the reboot, people seem to vault head over heels to try and break up S/U without any validity. And I say without validity because of one key thing. You said that Spock suddenly thought that starting a relationship two weeks after his mother died was selfish.
...But I bring your attention to the scene in in STXI where Spock originally assigned Uhura to the Farragut because he did not want anything to speak of favoritism.
That doesn't sound like a relationship that started AFTER the movie.
Now, if you want Spock and Uhura to find out they're not really compatible, that's fine. That's what real relationships sometimes lead to. But to have Uhura basically bully Spock with "logic" to keep him, that does a disservice to both Spock and Uhura as the strong, dynamic characters we know they are.
Not only did it pull me out of the story (because while I was excited that my private OTP was now canon, I still have a huge place in my heart for well done K/S), but it left a bad taste in my mouth because I wondered, if Uhura and Spock are so OOC, who will turn out to be next?"
Now, what's my problem with that review? Not necessarily in the content, b/c everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but that it was anonymous--with a written-in "Alex". Which means I can't respond to the review. And I've got a lot to say, particularly b/c I already argued the "favoritism" line argument in another LJ review (basically: no way would Spock date a cadet b/c it's illogical and inappropriate in lots of ways, so the favoritism must have indicated that she was at the top of her classes or soemthing). Also, and I hate to say it like this but I'll say it anyway, why the heck would a S/U shipper read a K/S fic where S/U eventually falls apart? I don't care what Alex or anyone else says, a true shipper (and everyone I know well both online and IRL) cannot stand to read fics where their ship isn't the main one, or else where it fails so a different ship can win. It's like, don't tell me you like "well done [insert other ship here]" (especially when that same fic disses your OTP) b/c that's a load of bullshit. Okay? I've been in fandom for 18 years now. I KNOW. *headdesk*
MY WHOLE POINT TO THIS WHINING IS THIS!! The fact that on FFN, people can comment and you can't always reply to their comments is the most obnoxious fucking thing I have come across in a long while. I'd really like to delete that comment, but I can't figure out how to do so. D: B/c I think anyone who just says something like that and doesn't allow the author to respond is a fucking asshole. If you're going to say shit like that, at least have the common decency to leave the author with the option of responding. *headdesk*
Don't get me wrong. I can take criticism, and in fact often appreciate it b/c it helps me write better. But to say the entire fic is bad and everyone is OOC and then not allow me to comment about that is just ridiculous.
THAT IS WHY I HATE FFN. And also their whole idiotic policies. Bah. Yeah, it's cool knowing how many people clicked on your fic and where they're from and whatnot, but I'd rather not know how mnay people are getting it and instead get awesome reviews which I can reply to, whether they are positive, negative, or what-have-you. That's why LJ rocks and FFN sucks, which I'd known for years now but for some reason decided to get smacked into me again.
SO!! What should I do? Report the review for abuse b/c it annoys me? Suck it up and deal with it? Stop posting on FFN? Continue posting on FFN and learn to live with these annoyances?
But I'll feel bad b/c people are following it on FFN now and I don't want to not post b/c one asshole was an asshole. Hmmm... BAH TO THESE SHENANIGANS.
Anyway, I'm online for a while yet, so reply if you can/care! What would YOU do, if you were me? XD
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Date: 2009-08-26 01:10 am (UTC)I completely agree with your view on S/U. I tried to argue that once and people tore me to pieces with ridiculously flawed logic and capital letters. It was horrible.
to ffnet or not to ffnet?
Date: 2009-08-26 06:25 pm (UTC)I have enjoyed your Apogee, and I´m glad you are posting in KS Archive. A lot of good reading, from TOS and ST09.
Check Amanda Warrington, Anna Amuse, aracnethe,Catalena Mara, Dana Austin Marsh, Debbie Cummins, Elise Madrid,drarroway, Isabol, jesmihr, Killa, UKJess, Sylvia Bond. All from TOS, sometimes in an Old Guard style, but you can find interesting things.
Oh, I´m Anon too. Don´t hate me please! I found your lj following a rec someplace...Rhaegal, perhaps? and I just had to add my two cents.
Please, finish the story! I don´t read WIPs, so now I´m taking a big risk...
Re: to ffnet or not to ffnet?
Date: 2009-09-08 02:15 am (UTC)Thanks for all those recs! *loves upon them* I'll have to check them out. \o/
LOL, I don't hate you OR anon people! *loves upon* I'm happy you replied, and I just like the chance to respond when people give me their opinions.
Oh, don't worry, I'll definitely finish the fic! It might take a while, but that's b/c there's a lot more story to tell. I hope you enjoy it! XD
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Date: 2009-09-08 02:10 am (UTC)I know, S/U only makes sense in this one way to me. I can't stand ridiculously flawed logic and capital letters when combined. People think they can use the two and it makes them feel like they've won. In reality, it just makes them look like idiots and everyone who's intelligent can see that.
*pats gently* Have some cookies to help ease your pain. *gives cookies*
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Date: 2009-09-24 03:58 pm (UTC)Seriously. It's like. No. You're an idiot. Stop. Arguing. With. Me.
*munches* Thank yee kindly. :3
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Date: 2009-09-25 03:39 pm (UTC)I hate it when stupid people are loud and get angry at you. It's impossible to win that kind of argument. *headdesk*
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