But I often feel like discussing ANYTHING with het shippers is like beating yourself in the head with a brick repeatedly.
Can we add that the bricks have spikes that stab you in the eye? I don't know, they give me piercing headaches.
Chris said that quote in the May issue of Parade magazine. The end of the quote talks about friendship, but seriously - I think the cast knows how deep Kirk and Spock run. "Friendship" is a very tame way of putting it (and I almost think that Chris added it as an after-thought.) Chris has also said that the closest he got to a romance in the movie was with "this guy" (as he pointed to Zach). I don't think the slash community is new to them, and I think Chris has a fun time with it. Zoe has also referred to the "friendship" between Kirk and Spock as "special" - I seriously think "friendship" is a code-word to them. The way they (Zoe and Chris) said it sounds like it has invisible air quotes to me, I don't know. (But I'm a delusional shipper, so what do I know?)
The screenwriters have Gene's story bible; and Gene has said that "they" (him and the other regular writers) intentionally wrote Kirk and Spock as "two halves of the same whole". When I watched the movie, I can't help but think the screenwriters had this in mind, and maybe it was part of Gene's story bible. You said something in a different comment about how Bones and Uhura are Kirk and Spock's respective support systems before they met each other, which I think is a very good point. In this 'verse they needed to be prepared for each other differently, and I think the screenwriters had that exact idea. Paramount MAY have changed - I don't know. The way Gene insisted on it, and the actors were always friendly towards it, made it seem like it's just politics. Is the climate okay for K/S, now? I don't think all the baby boomers are dead; and they are rumored to be mostly responsible for Prop 8 passing (which is WEIRD to me, considering the awesomeness of the 60's.) So... yeah. I believe it's just up to Paramount at this point - whom I agree are idiotic for doing the het thing if they honestly THINK that they can quell the K/S people. But a part of me thinks they're not... I don't know. I love Bones and Uhura, but they were not given the same important emphasis.
(I think my last straw about canon Reboot K/S was during one of the final scenes with Kirk and Spock discussing the Narada - and their faces are illuminated by a RED MOTHERFUCKING GLOW on the bridge. I'm like, "SERIOUSLY, J.J.?!" That man is either OBLIVIOUS about that - or is on our side. When the DVD comes out, I can't wait to compare that lighting to Spock/Uhura's... the turbolift was very white and sterile, if I remember correctly. Hmm. For a guy who loves lensflare, I just... can't believe he'd let shit like that slip, that's all.)
I'd totally love to see your original fiction! ♥ Incidentally, I have a four-day vacation this weekend, so I could totally get around to it ASAP. (It's either that, or staring at Chapter 32 of Home for hours on-end... which, no matter how much I logically try to tell myself, it will not magically update by me staring at it. Boo.)
There's a website called Critique Circle which is really great for edits, but TOTALLY MADE ME CRY LIKE A LITTLE GIRL PUNCHED IN THE CHEST. For real. (I took a six-month break on my novel because of it... PRICKS.) I am more character-motivated and orientated, so I can't say I'm great about plot or anything... but I'm wordy and try to be helpful. ♥ I'm not about ripping a person's heart out, or anything, so... no worries. :)
Email: gwenhwyfear at hotmail dot com. SUCK IT, BOTS.
"Rich" would be awesome - I have student loans to pay. But yeah, I think the ultimate reward as a writer would be fanfiction for my stories... sigh. As for my stuff: I'll totally send you some. I have a BORING AS HELL first chapter that I hate like whoa, and would love direction on. I'd just like to add stuff to it first, and then I'll send it over and go D:.
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Date: 2009-07-30 05:36 am (UTC)Can we add that the bricks have spikes that stab you in the eye? I don't know, they give me piercing headaches.
Chris said that quote in the May issue of Parade magazine. The end of the quote talks about friendship, but seriously - I think the cast knows how deep Kirk and Spock run. "Friendship" is a very tame way of putting it (and I almost think that Chris added it as an after-thought.) Chris has also said that the closest he got to a romance in the movie was with "this guy" (as he pointed to Zach). I don't think the slash community is new to them, and I think Chris has a fun time with it. Zoe has also referred to the "friendship" between Kirk and Spock as "special" - I seriously think "friendship" is a code-word to them. The way they (Zoe and Chris) said it sounds like it has invisible air quotes to me, I don't know. (But I'm a delusional shipper, so what do I know?)
The screenwriters have Gene's story bible; and Gene has said that "they" (him and the other regular writers) intentionally wrote Kirk and Spock as "two halves of the same whole". When I watched the movie, I can't help but think the screenwriters had this in mind, and maybe it was part of Gene's story bible. You said something in a different comment about how Bones and Uhura are Kirk and Spock's respective support systems before they met each other, which I think is a very good point. In this 'verse they needed to be prepared for each other differently, and I think the screenwriters had that exact idea. Paramount MAY have changed - I don't know. The way Gene insisted on it, and the actors were always friendly towards it, made it seem like it's just politics. Is the climate okay for K/S, now? I don't think all the baby boomers are dead; and they are rumored to be mostly responsible for Prop 8 passing (which is WEIRD to me, considering the awesomeness of the 60's.) So... yeah. I believe it's just up to Paramount at this point - whom I agree are idiotic for doing the het thing if they honestly THINK that they can quell the K/S people. But a part of me thinks they're not... I don't know. I love Bones and Uhura, but they were not given the same important emphasis.
(I think my last straw about canon Reboot K/S was during one of the final scenes with Kirk and Spock discussing the Narada - and their faces are illuminated by a RED MOTHERFUCKING GLOW on the bridge. I'm like, "SERIOUSLY, J.J.?!" That man is either OBLIVIOUS about that - or is on our side. When the DVD comes out, I can't wait to compare that lighting to Spock/Uhura's... the turbolift was very white and sterile, if I remember correctly. Hmm. For a guy who loves lensflare, I just... can't believe he'd let shit like that slip, that's all.)
I'd totally love to see your original fiction! ♥ Incidentally, I have a four-day vacation this weekend, so I could totally get around to it ASAP. (It's either that, or staring at Chapter 32 of Home for hours on-end... which, no matter how much I logically try to tell myself, it will not magically update by me staring at it. Boo.)
There's a website called Critique Circle which is really great for edits, but TOTALLY MADE ME CRY LIKE A LITTLE GIRL PUNCHED IN THE CHEST. For real. (I took a six-month break on my novel because of it... PRICKS.) I am more character-motivated and orientated, so I can't say I'm great about plot or anything... but I'm wordy and try to be helpful. ♥ I'm not about ripping a person's heart out, or anything, so... no worries. :)
Email: gwenhwyfear at hotmail dot com. SUCK IT, BOTS.
"Rich" would be awesome - I have student loans to pay. But yeah, I think the ultimate reward as a writer would be fanfiction for my stories... sigh. As for my stuff: I'll totally send you some. I have a BORING AS HELL first chapter that I hate like whoa, and would love direction on. I'd just like to add stuff to it first, and then I'll send it over and go D:.