(Dude, my comments always get too long for LJ, but I shorten them. D: Now I don't feel so bad, lol.)
I absolutely ADORE the footnote. Like crazy. However it does make K/S look invalidated on the out-set, even though I thoroughly agree with you and the essay author. It's just... more crap I have to wade through when discussing it with het shippers. With the way Gene wrote it, I can't help but feel like he was face-palming the entire time, as well. But he loved double-speak, so I think he was able to appeal to his detractors, but still give a wink to us. (GO GENE GO!)
I guess about being afraid to bring it up: I honest-to-God feel like we're going there already in the Reboot. I don't think it'll be explicit, but I think it'll be like TOS in the ambiguity department, which is what I think Paramount is willing to give us. Just from what Chris Pine, Zoe Saldana, and the scriptwriters have said about the "friendship" between Kirk and Spock, I feel like it's all code for the shippers. Maybe I'm delusional, but Chris even said it's about "two men learning to love each other". I feel like the actors are ready, it's just the material being approved. (I have a lot of theories on this personally, but that's probably digressing.)
I totally agree about needing queer (and likable) main characters, and how important that is. But personally, I guess I have a fear that if we push Paramount to make it official, that they'll retreat the opposite way, and cause more damage on that front. Everyone is willing on the creative end, it's just the purse-strings, in my opinion. I would LOVE it to be official, and it would be ground-breaking and amazing in so many ways - I would be so freakin' proud. But seeing Paramount's history... I just... I'm skeptical about them. :( I don't want them to strip the canon-subtext to appease a backlash; which is my worst fear. I almost feel like it would be detrimental to what K/S are, historically, in TOS. Just more ammunition at my heavy heart. (This is what ship wars do to a person, LOL. Although you certainly have a point that ship wars "miss the point", of course.)
But with that being said: OMG YOU WRITE ORIGINAL FICTION?! This makes me happy. I adore your writing, so I'm sure it's awesome. How far along are you? Is it shareable? *crosses fingers* Actually, I was going to ask if you had links to your H/D essays. Does a person need to grovel, or are you benevolent? ;)
I am SOFREAKINGCLOSEOMG with my fiction; it is frustrating. Six years, man. Six years I've been working on this one difficult bitch. *shakes fist at it* It is unfortunately all het - but hey, they came that way, what can I say? ;) (I try not to hold it against them.) I have this horrible habit of reveling in the rush of the first draft - stream-of-conciousness unedited crap - and then letting it go. I have about... three books that way, I guess. Several short stories. All unedited. I should really get my ass in gear, especially since I want to be a rich and famous writer. (Okay, a "writer" would do for me, honestly.) I have a lot of queer characters in my other works, but I'm not drawn to the well-adjusted kind. I'm more about not drawing differences between sexualities, rather than pointing and going, "OMG, look, they're gay!" about it. I'm not sure if that helps the movement in the slightest, but it is what makes me happy, and what I tend to write. A part of me likes the concept of establishing a normality and non-plussed attitude about sexuality, rather than creating an elephant in the room. (Does that make sense?)
Part of my problem might be not thinking about the gay thing enough. It was never any big deal to me, although I miss having heroes in media that I can look up to.
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I absolutely ADORE the footnote. Like crazy. However it does make K/S look invalidated on the out-set, even though I thoroughly agree with you and the essay author. It's just... more crap I have to wade through when discussing it with het shippers. With the way Gene wrote it, I can't help but feel like he was face-palming the entire time, as well. But he loved double-speak, so I think he was able to appeal to his detractors, but still give a wink to us. (GO GENE GO!)
I guess about being afraid to bring it up: I honest-to-God feel like we're going there already in the Reboot. I don't think it'll be explicit, but I think it'll be like TOS in the ambiguity department, which is what I think Paramount is willing to give us. Just from what Chris Pine, Zoe Saldana, and the scriptwriters have said about the "friendship" between Kirk and Spock, I feel like it's all code for the shippers. Maybe I'm delusional, but Chris even said it's about "two men learning to love each other". I feel like the actors are ready, it's just the material being approved. (I have a lot of theories on this personally, but that's probably digressing.)
I totally agree about needing queer (and likable) main characters, and how important that is. But personally, I guess I have a fear that if we push Paramount to make it official, that they'll retreat the opposite way, and cause more damage on that front. Everyone is willing on the creative end, it's just the purse-strings, in my opinion. I would LOVE it to be official, and it would be ground-breaking and amazing in so many ways - I would be so freakin' proud. But seeing Paramount's history... I just... I'm skeptical about them. :( I don't want them to strip the canon-subtext to appease a backlash; which is my worst fear. I almost feel like it would be detrimental to what K/S are, historically, in TOS. Just more ammunition at my heavy heart. (This is what ship wars do to a person, LOL. Although you certainly have a point that ship wars "miss the point", of course.)
But with that being said: OMG YOU WRITE ORIGINAL FICTION?! This makes me happy. I adore your writing, so I'm sure it's awesome. How far along are you? Is it shareable? *crosses fingers* Actually, I was going to ask if you had links to your H/D essays. Does a person need to grovel, or are you benevolent? ;)
I am SOFREAKINGCLOSEOMG with my fiction; it is frustrating. Six years, man. Six years I've been working on this one difficult bitch. *shakes fist at it* It is unfortunately all het - but hey, they came that way, what can I say? ;) (I try not to hold it against them.) I have this horrible habit of reveling in the rush of the first draft - stream-of-conciousness unedited crap - and then letting it go. I have about... three books that way, I guess. Several short stories. All unedited. I should really get my ass in gear, especially since I want to be a rich and famous writer. (Okay, a "writer" would do for me, honestly.) I have a lot of queer characters in my other works, but I'm not drawn to the well-adjusted kind. I'm more about not drawing differences between sexualities, rather than pointing and going, "OMG, look, they're gay!" about it. I'm not sure if that helps the movement in the slightest, but it is what makes me happy, and what I tend to write. A part of me likes the concept of establishing a normality and non-plussed attitude about sexuality, rather than creating an elephant in the room. (Does that make sense?)
Part of my problem might be not thinking about the gay thing enough. It was never any big deal to me, although I miss having heroes in media that I can look up to.