Thanks! I didn't know that Bale said he'd drop out if Robin was introduced. That sort of sucks. :(
I do like the dark atmosphere of Buron's Gotham. It's true--Nolan's Gotham is brighter than you normally find it. But, I think that lends to the realistic atmosphere Nolan seems trying to achieve. And, huh, I didn't notice the license plates. But, there's never been a state named that Gotham is located in, has there?
Ledger was definitely the best Joker, I think there's no question about that. Nicolson was playing himself in that movie, I agree completely. I think Ledger hits the nail on the head for this role, while Nicolson ends up overplaying it to a point where you're not actually afraid of anything he's doing. It's just funny. There's a separation there that doesn't exist with Ledger's Joker. I was actually uncomfortable during the movie at several points when Ledger was on screen--that's how good he was, at least to me.
I also agree with your description of Keaton's bruce. He really had it down. But yeah, Bale's Bruce works as well, and using that training to explain how he can control himself works for me. We do see Bale's Batman get more out of control when the Joker's on screen, yet he never crosses that final line. Keaton's Batman, on the other hand, crosses the line and doesn't seem affected by it. It does seem backwards that the killer is the hero and the one who refuses to kill is the villain. But interesting, in terms of how people see what they want to see and ignore the rest.
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Date: 2008-07-28 06:30 pm (UTC)I do like the dark atmosphere of Buron's Gotham. It's true--Nolan's Gotham is brighter than you normally find it. But, I think that lends to the realistic atmosphere Nolan seems trying to achieve. And, huh, I didn't notice the license plates. But, there's never been a state named that Gotham is located in, has there?
Ledger was definitely the best Joker, I think there's no question about that. Nicolson was playing himself in that movie, I agree completely. I think Ledger hits the nail on the head for this role, while Nicolson ends up overplaying it to a point where you're not actually afraid of anything he's doing. It's just funny. There's a separation there that doesn't exist with Ledger's Joker. I was actually uncomfortable during the movie at several points when Ledger was on screen--that's how good he was, at least to me.
I also agree with your description of Keaton's bruce. He really had it down. But yeah, Bale's Bruce works as well, and using that training to explain how he can control himself works for me. We do see Bale's Batman get more out of control when the Joker's on screen, yet he never crosses that final line. Keaton's Batman, on the other hand, crosses the line and doesn't seem affected by it. It does seem backwards that the killer is the hero and the one who refuses to kill is the villain. But interesting, in terms of how people see what they want to see and ignore the rest.
Thanks again! :D